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Post by emm8 on Jul 22, 2022 11:34:12 GMT -5
What'ch you talkin' 'bout, Willis? If Putin/Russians, Xi Jinping/Chinese, or Ali Khamenei/Iranians were deemed to be behind this shit, 99% of Americans would be calling for a firing squad (without any hearing). I meant collusion between Trump and the oath keepers or proud boys not a foreign entity. I never for a second misconstrued what you were implying. I fail to see any distinction. An insurrection (or a bank robbery) isn't up for interpretation under the criminal code, as to whether you're a national or a foreigner. The crime itself may have a different criminal title if it were orchestrated by foreigners, but if you were a party in the planning (directly or indirectly through an intermediary), you own the penalties commensurate with the crime. The Proud Boy leaders (and the Oath Keepers) never entered the building. They're not complete idiots (actually they are, but for the purpose of this argument). They let the peons do that. You think they're getting off? If found guilty, they'll do more time than the peons. They'd better be lawyered up to the max. And if there's anyone in the admin (or higher..."Le Grande Orange" for you baseball historians), or even peripherally involved (ie...Rudy, Roger Stone, Bannon, Flynn), ditto! The purpose of this investigation is to see if the planning trail stops at the Proud Boys leadership, or does it lead to the White House? For a couple years the Watergate investigation was thought to be a bunch of rogue nickel and dime peons, and we know how that turned out.
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Post by baldwintrack on Jul 22, 2022 17:27:55 GMT -5
Bannon definitely is imo. Whether or not it made its way directly to the former president (don’t insult Rusty Staub!) who knows. Once Bannon is implicated he’s going to say he had Trumps blessing regardless to save his own hind. That’s when the fireworks begin.
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Post by stones on Jul 24, 2022 8:52:57 GMT -5
Brandon has Covid How Ironic a man saying he plans on shutting down the virus gets it two years later
The Trump haters are back Even the poster who blamed Trump for the Global Pandemic LOL
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Post by tiger4lyfe on Jul 27, 2022 10:47:10 GMT -5
People miss the very simple parts of this. Who cares if there was collusion between him and supporters to have a coup. Just stick to real facts. Trump criticized Mike Pence for doing his constitutional dutyIndividuals involved with a lot of whacko groups were willing to do his bidding for him He didn’t try to stop it for several hours The idea that people think he’s “strong” is crazy too. He’s weak. A loser. Crybaby. Whiner etc. I’ll gladly vote for a president who wants to put tariffs on China, cut taxes to middle class, produce energy here in America etc. just not this one. We should be excited that he had good ideas that we can build from. He can ditch Trump the person and move on. Republicans only hurt themselves by allowing him to assimilate with the party. It's kind of amazing Mike Pence is the real hero of January 6 "I'm not getting in that car Tim" If he got in the car and left, who knows what may have happened . Maybe the protesters get him or real tin foil hat stuff, Trump's cronies got to him if he left. He stayed, finished the job. Even if I disagree with everything that man stands for , I respect him for his actions that day. I personally think we crossed a line that day that we never come back from, there will likely be more coup attempts and they will be more organized . I hope I'm wrong, but I think we turning into Turkey
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Post by Downriver on Jul 27, 2022 11:12:49 GMT -5
To right the ship, I think both parties need to get some new, young blood involved. We've seen more than enough of Trump, Biden, Hilary, etc. who are all pushing 80. As John Kasich said, "if I hadn't run out of money, Trump would have never happened". We need to find a way to better fund viable candidates so this doesn't happen again. Think about it. Trump lost the popular vote to very unpopular Hilary by 3 million votes. But got lucky and won a couple of key states because Hilary thought she had it in the bag and didn't campaign properly. Then he lost to Biden by 7 million votes and Biden is probably even worse than Hilary. The Dems are hoping that Trump runs again because they can essentially run anyone and beat him.
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Post by baldwintrack on Jul 27, 2022 18:10:44 GMT -5
People miss the very simple parts of this. Who cares if there was collusion between him and supporters to have a coup. Just stick to real facts. Trump criticized Mike Pence for doing his constitutional dutyIndividuals involved with a lot of whacko groups were willing to do his bidding for him He didn’t try to stop it for several hours The idea that people think he’s “strong” is crazy too. He’s weak. A loser. Crybaby. Whiner etc. I’ll gladly vote for a president who wants to put tariffs on China, cut taxes to middle class, produce energy here in America etc. just not this one. We should be excited that he had good ideas that we can build from. He can ditch Trump the person and move on. Republicans only hurt themselves by allowing him to assimilate with the party. It's kind of amazing Mike Pence is the real hero of January 6 "I'm not getting in that car Tim" If he got in the car and left, who knows what may have happened . Maybe the protesters get him or real tin foil hat stuff, Trump's cronies got to him if he left. He stayed, finished the job. Even if I disagree with everything that man stands for , I respect him for his actions that day. I personally think we crossed a line that day that we never come back from, there will likely be more coup attempts and they will be more organized . I hope I'm wrong, but I think we turning into Turkey I hope you are wrong. I think Trump supporters are in a trance of some sort. I like Pence. I like Trumps policies. His actions are so childish. The opposite of what his supporters think he is. Today he announced he’s suing CNN. Barack Obama, who I do not like, never sued Trump or any outlet that questioned his legitimacy because he’s a real man. Trump is constantly trying to bring others down, dehumanize, delegitimize anybody who disagrees with him. He’s the antithesis of a leader. George W. Bush and Dick Chaney never sued anybody who claimed they started the Iraq war for collusion with Halliburton. Bill Clinton never sued anybody for claiming he ordered political opponents to be murdered. All politicians face lies and slander, including Trump. What sets him apart is his unwillingness to ignore it like a petulant child. I’d be honored to vote for Pence. I will never vote for Trump.
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Post by Downriver on Jul 27, 2022 23:26:59 GMT -5
Here's something funny that just popped into my head. As we all know the president is limited to 2 terms. So, if Trump decided he wants to run in 2024 he would have to admit he lost the 2020 election.
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Post by baldwintrack on Jul 31, 2022 19:35:30 GMT -5
The PA Republican Party needs to drop Mastriano and try somebody, ANYBODY, else to run for Governor. He’s a dead man walking in a year that the pendulum should swing pretty far to the right. I knew it was a ridiculous nominee after the primary but it keeps getting worse. He’s paying Gab to advertise for his campaign, that’s the website that maniac Bowers frequented. Usually when I don’t like a republican I just don’t vote. I’ll vote against him.
Oz is down too but I will vote for him because he’s just a weak candidate. Not evil lol
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Post by coach99 on Jul 31, 2022 20:27:09 GMT -5
I m not happy with how the Democrats have been running thigs, but the Republicans have blown a big chance to take over by having such crappy candidates.
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Post by baldwintrack on Jul 31, 2022 20:55:42 GMT -5
I m not happy with how the Democrats have been running thigs, but the Republicans have blown a big chance to take over by having such crappy candidates. Oz is fine to me. He’s a smart guy and I think he will be a rubber stamp vote for positions I generally agree with. Mastriano is a whole different ballgame. Also I like Shapiro way more than Fetterman.
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Post by crabber on Jul 31, 2022 23:07:53 GMT -5
I don't know anything about the rules because both parties are a piece of shit... But I would like to know how a man that lives in & calls New Jersey his home can run for an office on Pa.....
I really could give a F less for me, it's high school football & basketball.... There is so much going on in basketball, Reading just won their 3rd straight A-Slam Championship (In Allentown) .... I don't post anything because very few people view it anyway.... Three months before he died, Jerry told me he was gonna stop also.... Thank god for yepper, Steamers, Downriver, baldwintrack.... Sorry about anyone I missed..... Now I'm talking about National & Eastern side and I forgot a great one boyshoopsfan...
To Dave Burman & Bruce Emswiller....
Go DUNCANVILLE....
Public High School always in tops of the Nation in 3 sports, Football, Basketball & Track... No player plays more than 1 sport... That's why basketball usually has 15-16 games played before football is over... Girls sports are great there also.....
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Post by tiger4lyfe on Aug 4, 2022 8:43:47 GMT -5
It's kind of amazing Mike Pence is the real hero of January 6 "I'm not getting in that car Tim" If he got in the car and left, who knows what may have happened . Maybe the protesters get him or real tin foil hat stuff, Trump's cronies got to him if he left. He stayed, finished the job. Even if I disagree with everything that man stands for , I respect him for his actions that day. I personally think we crossed a line that day that we never come back from, there will likely be more coup attempts and they will be more organized . I hope I'm wrong, but I think we turning into Turkey I hope you are wrong. I think Trump supporters are in a trance of some sort. I like Pence. I like Trumps policies. His actions are so childish. The opposite of what his supporters think he is. Today he announced he’s suing CNN. Barack Obama, who I do not like, never sued Trump or any outlet that questioned his legitimacy because he’s a real man. Trump is constantly trying to bring others down, dehumanize, delegitimize anybody who disagrees with him. He’s the antithesis of a leader. George W. Bush and Dick Chaney never sued anybody who claimed they started the Iraq war for collusion with Halliburton. Bill Clinton never sued anybody for claiming he ordered political opponents to be murdered. All politicians face lies and slander, including Trump. What sets him apart is his unwillingness to ignore it like a petulant child. I’d be honored to vote for Pence. I will never vote for Trump. Trump sues or threatens to sue everyone that crosses him . He has been doing it his entire life. And yeah Trump isn't a leader, plain and simple. He's a thug with the temperament of a 9 year old.
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Post by coach99 on Aug 7, 2022 13:42:41 GMT -5
Exactly when and why did the law makers decide to basic destroy the USA? As was stated years ago..An invasion or war will not be needed to defeat America...it will fall from within..It is happening now.
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Post by baldwintrack on Aug 7, 2022 15:07:28 GMT -5
Kansas after a referendum on the ballot to ban abortions. It lot 60-40 in a state more conservative than PA. I cannot believe that republicans think this is the way to move forward. They had this election cycle in the bag until this.
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Post by stones on Aug 8, 2022 9:37:48 GMT -5
Coach I agree 100%
Crazy decisions like hiring IRS agents etc is based on a tie breaking vote we have a worker shortage and to take potential employees to harass people make 25000 to 100000 dollars is Idiotic
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